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#1 · (Edited)
*10/20/2020 update
I updated the list of parts required and included a wiring diagram

I decided to retrofit my Mazda 3 2018 with MRCC

After some research yesterday I finally complete the retrofit

Mazda 3 2017/2018 parts required

Radar UnitBAEK-67-XA1E / BAEK-67-XA1C / BAEK-67-XA1E / BAEK-67-XA1B 1
racket Radar Sensorb63c67xa21
Stay Bracketghp967z712
Controllerghp967ya01
Bracket Rad.Grilleb63c507161
Cord Shortghp967sh01
Rear Channel Upper Bolt997400510b6
Lock Support Bolt9kk800620b8
Ornamentdd2f517301
Switch Steeringb68t664m0a1
Lower Platebbm468d422


The Radiator support core for the non MRCC model is different and is missing the bolts to attach the brackets. so I had to think on a solution for this.

so I made the nuts with a M6 rivet nut kit that I ordered on amazon


then I had to do the wiring. so I added two lines for the can hi and can lo on a joint connector that is located near the windshield water tank.
add ground and +12v ignition from the correct circuit.

I also added the as-build values for mrcc and distance support.
72004182845F0BF0665
72004230000BF095066 (lim&mrcc)

finally Calibration must be done using FORSCAN or IDS
 

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#675 ·
After searching and reading about error code 5 I'm pretty sure your issue it's a Forscan bug.
Why the program is not flagging code 1 or code 2? just code 5 !
Three different users with the same error code lately. The thing is I don't recall reading from any other user in this forum a code5 error.
Please use an older Forscan version or IDS.

Error code​
Item​
Possible cause​
Inspection item (s)​
Code 1​
Improper target position​
• SST (reflector) installation mistake
• Marking setting mistake
• Improper installation of radar unit
• Radar unit malfunction​
• SST (reflector) installation condition
• Marking setting condition (SST string)
• Radar unit installation condition and installation part condition
• Applicable DTC troubleshooting​
Code 2​
Improper target angle​
• SST (reflector) installation mistake
• Marking setting mistake
• Improper installation of radar unit
• Radar unit malfunction​
• SST (reflector) installation condition
• Marking setting condition (SST string)
• Radar unit installation condition and installation part condition
• Applicable DTC troubleshooting​
Code 3​
Multiple targets​
• There is reflective object on area around SST (reflector) which could become a possible target
• Radar unit malfunction​
• Remove reflective object on area around SST (reflector) which could become a possible target
• Applicable DTC troubleshooting​
Code 4​
Target moves​
• SST (reflector) moves (within radar unit reception range) during aiming
• Radar unit malfunction​
• SST (reflector) installation condition
• Applicable DTC troubleshooting​
Code 5​
No target​
• Voltage supplied to radar unit is out of specification
• Aiming performed under out-of-specification temperature
• Dirt is adhering to radar unit or radiator grille ornament
• Dirt is adhering to SST (reflector)
• SST (reflector) is deformed
• SST (reflector) does not exist (within radar unit reception range) during aiming
• Radar unit malfunction​
• Radar unit supply voltage inspection (approx. 9.5—15.5 V)
• Ambient temperature verification (approx. -30—60 °C {-22—140 °F})
• Remove dirt from radar senor or radiator grille ornament surface
• Remove dirt from SST (reflector)
• Replace SST (reflector)
• SST (reflector) installation condition
• Applicable DTC troubleshooting​
Code 7​
Vehicle condition malfunction​
• Vehicle moves during aiming (vehicle door opening/closing, getting on vehicle) (change in wheel speed)
• Radar unit malfunction​
• Verification of selector lever position (in P position)​
 
#678 ·
Sorry, I was traveling, and I couldn't reply to your question. IDS is Ford/Mazda official diagnostics software. If you google it, you can download a hack version.
That's more like it: 3 different people with exact same error, no way. It doesn't make any sense to add up washers, change the position or angle of the radar plate. The system relies on a complete straight bracket.

I don't know about your present issue, I will look myself at the service manual, but you should start checking your alternator and regulator system. Maybe that's the reason you have cooked the original radar, and you will fry the replacement and possible other modules. Did the dealer check your charging system? Use Forscan oscilloscope tab and monitor alternator min and max voltages.
 
#685 ·
Guys, if you have any reasons to believe that specific newer FORScan version has some issues, comparing to the old one - write a letter to their support, describing what's wrong in your opinion. Don't leave it to be fixed on its own.
 
owns 2015 Mazda 3 Touring+
#687 ·
Was driving this morning, and when the SBS is ON it's throwing random SBS inspection required for half second and disappear, once I turned off SBS it doesn't show up. Do I need additionally to calibrate something more? Because before MRCC calibration it showed YAW sensor calibration requested, but it disappeared after MRCC calibration.

All the random SBS faults happens when I drived with MRCC off.

Also, will try to check what is the power coming from generator. What charging range it should show?
 
#688 ·
Was driving this morning, and when the SBS is ON it's throwing random SBS inspection required for half second and disappear, once I turned off SBS it doesn't show up. Do I need additionally to calibrate something more? Because before MRCC calibration it showed YAW sensor calibration requested, but it disappeared after MRCC calibration.

All the random SBS faults happens when I drived with MRCC off.

Also, will try to check what is the power coming from generator. What charging range it should show?
What DTC's pop up when SBS is having a fit?
Nevermind, I see your earlier post now.

This is what mazda's workshop manual suggests could be possible cause according to your DTC:

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If I had to bet my money, I'd say it's most likely a wiring issue somewhere towards radar unit itself.
 
#699 ·
Hi. I was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction. I'm retrofitting MRCC/SBS to my 2018 Mazda 6. I've installed everything and successfully calibrated the radar. I also modified the as-built data:

IC:
720-04-17
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720-04-18
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720-04-23
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Now I'm getting the following DTCs:

SBS: U0316 - Software Incompatibility with Vehicle Dynamics Control Module ( :09 - Component Failures)

ABS: U2300:55-8A, U3000:4A-8A - Configuration data not recorded/incompatible configuration data received . Central Configuration - Not Configured.

FSC: U0415:68-0A - Forward sensing camera (FSC) receives the error signal from the DSC HU/CM for 5 s or more.
My first thought was that I needed to re-learn the ABS module using FORScan. I tried that, but after about 4 seconds, it gave this message:
"Vehicle conditions are incorrect"
"Service procedure has been interrupted"


That made me think—maybe my ABS module doesn't support SBS/MRCC and lacks the required braking functionality. However, my car did come with SCBS from the factory and it has Auto-Hold, so I assumed that would be sufficient for MRCC.

The actual ABS part number is GBVG-437A0. The car is US-spec, but there's very little information about this ABS module, and I haven’t found it in US parts catalogs.


Does anyone have any idea what I can try next?
Thanks!
 
#700 ·
Hi. I was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction. I'm retrofitting MRCC/SBS to my 2018 Mazda 6. I've installed everything and successfully calibrated the radar. I also modified the as-built data:


Now I'm getting the following DTCs:



My first thought was that I needed to re-learn the ABS module using FORScan. I tried that, but after about 4 seconds, it gave this message:
"Vehicle conditions are incorrect"
"Service procedure has been interrupted"


That made me think—maybe my ABS module doesn't support SBS/MRCC and lacks the required braking functionality. However, my car did come with SCBS from the factory and it has Auto-Hold, so I assumed that would be sufficient for MRCC.

The actual ABS part number is GBVG-437A0. The car is US-spec, but there's very little information about this ABS module, and I haven’t found it in US parts catalogs.


Does anyone have any idea what I can try next?
Thanks!
Try these values in BF05:
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owns 2015 Mazda 3 Touring+
#708 ·
I'm looking for some insight on this. I have two ABS/DSC units for a Mazda 6—one supports MRCC, the other doesn't. I'm wondering if it's possible to swap just the electronic module. The pump section doesn't have a part number to reference, but visually, both units appear identical. Is there a way to verify compatibility? Perhaps the insides are different? Thanks!

No MRCC:
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With MRCC:
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#710 ·
Sorry, I don't recognize module, FBCM has 3 connectors, if this is the FBCM module, the picture is missing the important connector (28p)
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I have a question, since this a 2023 model, do you have MZD Connect Infotainment 1 or 2?. Mazda Connect 2 also called type B, the wiring and modules are quite different from type A. Let us know.
 
#711 ·
Hello everyone, friends. I hope everyone is well.
I would like to talk about my problem briefly.
I have a 2015 mazda3 (with factory radar and adaptive cruise control)
The radar sensor broke due to a minor frontal accident. I bought a used radar sensor from a different vehicle with the same part number and installed it in my car. I heard that calibration should be done. The service said that there would be no adaptation of the used part because it was taken from a different car (something like the chassis numbers of the car into the parts... because the number is registered). As far as I have examined this issue, it is done with forscan.
Briefly;
Can I do this calibration myself?
I have ObdII ELM Bluetooth btw.
 
#712 ·
You only need to calibrate it. As far as I understand, you have those cheap ELM OBD readers, if I got that right, then you won't be able to run "Forscan" software that is needed to calibrate it. How to make a reflector is written in this thread.

Ask how much does this service charge for calibration, if it's ~100 USD/EUR or whatever, then I'd just let them do it. To do it yourself, you'd need a cable, laptop, learn how to use forscan (relatively easy), make a reflector.
 
#717 ·
Yes friends! I finally managed to delete all the faults and calibrate. I am writing here for information purposes. Friends who have had such problems may be inspired.

Yesterday I accidentally broke the fsc calibration (sensor settings on the windshield). And again I had a front radar sensor calibration problem before.

First of all, unfortunately, the dynamic calibration option was not available for the 2015 BM mazda 3. So I needed a static calibration adjustment. I got help with this from friend @SergSlim , I thank him. I am sharing pictures about it.

There is a post prepared by him on this subject, you can review it.
Доукомплектація автомобіля системами HBC, LDWS, SCBS - єДрайв

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For now, the setting we broke yesterday is fixed. Fsc malfunction was deleted in dtc. Then I calibrated the mrcc front radar sensor. For calibration, I would like to thank the friend who covered the prism with aluminum foil and the friend who shared the prism diagram. Then I started to calibrate it, and it kept giving me the error code 5, and I doubted whether the radar was working or not, so I put some other obstacles around and tried again, and this time it gave me the fault code 3. This means that "3" means that there are other obstacles around. Code "5" means that the sensor cannot select the reflector (prism). Again, I removed the obstacles and fine-tuned the prism a bit more (with a broomstick :d ). Calibration was completed on about my 8th attempt! Good luck to everyone :)

Установка MRCC та датчиків паркування. Частина 6 — Заключна: Калібрування та підсумки + подяки - єДрайв


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The materials I used: broomstick, ladder, A4 paper, drawing chart. :D :D
Primitive but it works.


Thanks to @SergSlim and @FartInTheWind for the help.
 
#720 ·
Hey everyone, really appreciate the quick responses! I'm trying to find a tidy solution to reach the bottom of the FBCM module to connect the cables. I attempted to route them from below, but no luck so far. I’ve thought about drilling a hole to run the wires through, but before going that route, I’d love any advice on the proper or recommended way to get the cables down to the base of the module.

From what I’ve found, it seems there are basically two options: the straightforward approach—drill a hole—or the more elaborate one, which involves removing the entire fuse box, as outlined here Mazda CX-5 Service & Repair Manual - Relay And Fuse Block Removal/Installation - General
 
#721 ·
Most people use the Joint connector near radar and not wired to FBCM for the reasons you're pointing out.
Try to find the JOINT Connector C42, it should be located next to the washer fluid reservoir as depicted on the diagram. Grab Ignition power and ground from the headlight leveling module or wired 12V direct from the fuse box.

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#727 ·
Hi @craz I finally decided to take the simple route and drilled a hole at the bottom of the fuse box to access the FBCM wiring harness. I connected the wires using 20 AWG Posi-Taps, and voilà — the radar is now detected by the car. Thanks for the help!

However, I’m now stuck on the module configuration. I’m using the calculator by @SergSlim (Thanks for your work), but I’ve noticed that some of the guidance in the Excel sheet doesn’t fully align with my vehicle. For example, my car doesn’t have Stop & Go (or MRCC), yet the byte that activates it is showing as ON as factory.

I’ve tried several combinations, but I always get the same errors:
• U2300:56 – Invalid configuration
• C0063:54 – Missing calibration

And when i try to add for instance SBS and MRCC just to try i start getting errors from other modules but keeping the invalid configuration and missing calibration.

Obviously, I can’t proceed with calibration until the invalid configuration error is resolved.

I’m unsure about what should be enabled under FOW/SBS/DRSS/MRCC in 720-04-17, since my car originally came with Advance SCBS, not SBS. I’m also uncertain about the region field in 720-04-18 — my car is configured for LATAM, but that region doesn’t appear as an option in the calculator.

I’ve been considering whether I need to change the region code (e.g., in 720-01-01) to one where MRCC is available first.

Any help or guidance would be greatly appreciated! For futhher references my car is a Mazda CX-9 2023 GTX (Top of the line here), but in my country we got stuck on gen 1 Mazda Connect but including the Advance SCBC. VIN:
JM7TC4WLAS0483192
 
#728 ·
Try:
Market: 110 — US/Asia/Aus or 111 — US/Asia/Aus
720-04-17 B2: 0111 - SBS/DRSS/MRCC
Stop & Go - Ignore it for now, I had the same configuration regarding this as you do, and mine is manual so for sure it didn't have no stop and go.
720-04-23 B4: 011 - Standard MRCC

Also, check your RBCM block for 7B7-01-01 B3 - Brake light, set it to 01 if it's not. In fact, I think you should set this first before setting anything in IC.