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Rear brake pads uneven wear

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#1 ·
I have a 2017 3 sport Mexico build and I'm replacing my front and rear pads and rotors and I noticed that I have uneven wear on the rear brakes on both sides. The outer pads were nearly down to metal and the inners had maybe 2-3mm left. I removed the caliper brackets to clean them up and did not notice any difficulty sliding the caliper pins. They still seemed well lubricated. After loosening the brake fluid reservoir cap and putting the electronic parking brake into maintenance mode I was able to compress the pistons without a special tool by using a box wrench and a wood block as leverage. I could not move the pistons by hand alone. This is my first time replacing the brakes so I have no reference as to how tight the piston should be. Should I be able to compress them by hand?
 
#4 ·
So, actually this is incorrect. After taking the caliper apart, it is obvious that the EPB is not physically attached to the piston. The EPB actuates a secondary piston that is captured internally by the main piston. This secondary piston is able to extend the main piston body and hold the brake pads against the rotor but is not able to retract the main piston. When the EPB disengages, the secondary piston that is internal to the main piston simply retracts by a threaded rod away from the main piston, leaving it in place. Through some research of my own I have come to understand that the square-cut seal along with a specially cut groove is what performs the retraction of the piston to release the brake pads from the rotor. Although, this retraction is only around 5 thousandths of an inch (0.1 mm). So, even though you engage maintenance mode which retracts the EPB, it does not retract the piston and you still need to compress the piston to allow for the new thicker brake pads.

Here is some information on the operation of the piston due to the square-cut seal and groove:
Checking Caliper Piston Operation
Patent US20090272606 - Triple chamfer seal groove - Google Patents
 
#3 · (Edited)
Just a quick update. One of the rear dust boots had a tear so I am rebuilding the caliper on that side. Now that I have the caliper apart I see how the EPB is able to extend the piston. If anyone is curious to see pictures of a tear down of a Mexico build rear brake caliper for a 2017 Mazda 3 sport with an EPB, let me know.
 
#6 ·
I agree. I did rear pads on my 2019 and I did not have to turn or compress the rear piston after enabling Maintenance Mode to fit the fresh pads and rotor.
The 2019 is a 4th Gen Japan build, but I suspect that the EPB is the same basic system as a 3rd gen Mexico build.

Your information regarding the normal retraction being done by the shape of the seal and groove, however, is correct. Interesting, yes, but irrelevant to this discussion.
 
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#13 ·
Agree completely, I've had the same problem with every set of pads I've put on my car (2016 3 Sport Japan build). My solution is a little different- I grind down the tabs on the pads slightly so they slide more easily. Occasionally I have overdone it and the pads "clunk" a bit when brakes are applied, but performance is not affected.