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i-eloop... is it really effective, how?

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When shopping for a Mazda 3, it is the first time I heard about i-eloop, this economy-boosting technology using a capacitor to quickly absorb the energy during engine deceleration and/or braking.

Here is the Mazda link that explains the technology
MAZDA: Brake Energy Regeneration System | Environmental Technology

Actually, I'm not fully satisfied with the explanations I have found so far about how it can shave off 1mpg. Perhaps I do not believe there is that much electrical power is being used. Perhaps there is some key to the design of the alternator that can be disengaged electrically so that it does not impose mechanical drag on the engine.

There is also a claim that the system will prolong the life of the storage battery. Presumably this has to do with the capacitor+DC/DC converter keeping battery at full voltage, like a trickle charger.

I read in these forums concern about the service life/cost of ownership for this feature. Is the variable-voltage alternator that feeds the capacitor much more expensive than the conventional one? I do believe the claim that this is uses relatively cheap components compared to hybrid system w/Li battery.

BTW, it is amusing to listen to the sales reps explain how it works. That being said, I admit that after reading the literature, I'm not in a position to explain how it can really be effective.

In short, I'm wonder if this is a real innovation/breakthrough and we will see it spread across the industry, or is it a gimmick.
 
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In short, I'm wonder if this is a real innovation/breakthrough and we will see it spread across the industry, or is it a gimmick.
This basic technology has been available in hybrids for years. The only difference is that there are no lithium ion batteries to recharge. First of all, it does add weight even though it is probably not that much. The only gas it would save is in pushing the alternator when it is engaged -- and that would depend on driving conditions and weather. If you did a lot of highway driving where you didn't gain much regenerative braking, then I'd bet that you'd get virtually no gain when pitted against the added weight. If you did a lot of braking in a place where you used air conditioning, then I could see some savings as you are using a lot of electrical energy.

So my answer to you would be that it depends. If you live in the northern half of the U.S. like me, as they say in NJ, forgetaboutit. If you live in the sun belt, I would do the math. Of course this thing would be a lot more to repair -- and since it is "new" technology, at least for Mazda, you can expect more problems.

Let's say, best case, that you drive 12,000 miles per year and save 3% of your gas. That's about 360 miles or roughly 10 gallons of gas. At $4 per gallon that's $40 per year. In 5 years, that's only $200 or less than 10% of what you paid for the tech package -- and that is best case.

Now I didn't think it was worth it. So the only real reason to get the 3TE package is if you want the rest of the goodies like radar cruise control. For the few times when I take auto trips each year, I couldn't justify the package. Therefore, the only real reason to get the 3TE package is if you do a lot of highway driving and have some level of vanity.

P.S. All of us already have some level of vanity because we chose to pay a premium to by this car...
 
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