If you notice that regen has started (high consumption, exhaust noise, i-Stop engine indicator), just downshift a gear or two. When engine revs over 3000, regen is done in less than 5 minutes.
Have you solved The problem with DPF? I have the same problem… after 3 months and 2000 km oil change 🤦🏼‍♀️Short answer is YES, but...
When DPF regen is on, you should get hi fuel consumption. But regeneration shouldn't be so often!
Actually, with my 1,5 skyactive diesel 55.000 km engine , I have the same (copy paste) issue! Last week I had my oil and filter changed after 3000 km- X level reached again for the second time in last 2-3 month's !!! Last 30 days I get regeneration every day!!! Every day!!! Last week I was on 40km highway trip - had DPF regeneration in both directions!!! Two times that day...
So in my case, regeneration gets at every 20-30km. I guess that I am holding some kind of 'DPF regen record' at this forum
So...I called official Mazda service...again, scheduled service for front brake pads replacement, and informed them about this issue.
Last time, when I had oil change after 3000 km, they told me 'This is normal...city driving...you must drive your car at highway occasionally...' Every week I have this ~80km highway ride, so their argument is a BS.
Last week, when I told them about my DPF regeneration and oil level rising, the answer was ' in that case, if it's all true what you are saying - you have a problem'... Well no way Mr. Sherlock Holms!!!
And procedure for my next Wednesday service visit, according to them is this:
-make diagnostics, what ever fault value is shown-they send it to Austria Mazda central, and then wait for suggestion what should be done?!? It could be 1-2 week for my car to stay at service...and price...who knows.
Then I asked them, ok... as far as I understand the issues with this diesel Mazda 'revolutionary diesel engine' we have 3 potential problems: DPF, EGR and Injectors? What you think, where is the problem? They told me that, probably there is a problem with injectors, but they will 'check everything'...
So, if I ever finish with this adventure, a will inform you.
Do you know what sensors are related to the DPF? I am already tired of this Mazda problem, my oil keep rising with fuel in in, my yellow light DPF is on and I don’t know what to do more…Ok folks, it is time to put my experience on this DPF saga.
For people new to this thread, you can read my previous posts in here and what I went though with this stupid DFP regeneration system. I’ll summarize it in few words: I had DPF regen at about 80-90 km and dropping (to about 40km now) I started with cleaning up DPF on a machine, then changed injectors, then changed Differential pressure sensor, then new MAP sensor. Four times I was in Mazda dealership, and they claim all readings are just fine, but DPF keep regen at every 40 km. (regardless highway or inter-town roads, regardless driving style)
So, I had enough of this crap, and decided to go DPF OFF. I did this into respectable tuning shop that I used to delete DPFs of my previous cars – very happy with the service, and they claim they had DPF OFF mode for MX5s with same engine – Skyactiv-D 2.2.
The way it works, they physically remove DPF off the exhaust (leaving Catalytic converter and ALL sensors intact) then tweak ECU to read differential pressure 0.0 kPa all the time and DPF temperature 700 C. First thing that alarmed my was they asking “Why you want DPF OFF as your one looks new, and readings are excellent”
Here is my DPF taken out just before regen cycle:
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Well, I explained I hate how Mazda ECU decide to regen completely unclogged DPF every 40 km and I don’t want to keep investigating this, it has been 1.5 years now. So I took my car and drove home, when I saw the damn DPF regeneration started again!! Freaked out! Got back to the shop, they connected it to diagnostics and confirm indeed regen just happened, which puzzled them even more as the Diff pressure keep reading 0 kPa and 700 C temp on the exhaust. The manager explained they had tenths of same engine Mazda’s DPF OFF and never seen this, so he asked me to leave the car for analysis.
3 days later, they called me and said – you can pick your car up, it will never regen anymore. So I asked what happened, and they said they worked with Mazda contacts they have in Australia to look up the issue and been told that Mazda Skyactiv-D engine will not only start DPF regen looking up diff. pressure and temp., but also looking up bunch of other sensors. Then they sent all live data from 3 days (that local shop collected) for analysis and Ausies could not see any abnormal readings at all, but they suggested that probably some sensor that appear to read “good” data is faulty and interrupts readings for short time and ECU picks that up and immediately get into regen cycle, so they suggested to Disable all sensors related to DPF.
So after that I did 2500 km and not a single regen happened. I also called the shop for feedback, and they said that it was probably bad wiring signal from one of the sensors that causing Regenerations all the time. They also suggested that IF I want to get DFP back ON, they can change all sensors (no idea how many of those) including wiring cables and it should be fine as my DPF looks just fine.
Conclusion: Mazda ECU enter regen cycle not only judging by diff pressure and temp, but bunch of other factors that Mazda dealers are completely unaware of.
Anyone that can figure out this nonsense regeneration should call Mazda and inform them![]()
I've been doing the same for my 3, which is also the 1.5d and has also just passed 73,000 miles as it happens. I've got ~38,750 miles worth of MPG & DPF regen interval data which I've been meaning to plot up. I'll get back to you at some point when I have more time - I've tried a few of the things in your 6 pointsI have been monitoring DPF regeneration intervals using forscan. Over the last 12 months the average mileage between regens has fallen from 135 miles to 85 miles. Car is a Mazda 2 (2016) 1.5 diesel than has done 73,000 miles. I have never seen a DPF warning light and have no DTCs but am worried that if the distances between regens keep falling then I will run into DPF problems in the next 12-18 months.
Has anyone managed to remove the inlet manifold and clean it and the engine ports? Did this improve things? Does anyone know whether you can test the EGR actuator in Forscan and if so how?
Has anyone managed to successfully increase the mileage between DPF regens and if how and did it work permanently or just temporarily. Did any of the following work?
1. clean both DPF sensors and pipework to the DPF
2. clean lambda sensor in the inlet manifold
3. adding dpf cleaner via the exhaust gas temp sensor port
4. adding manifold/EGR cleaner
5. getting the DPF professionally cleaned.
6. clean MAF/MAP sensors
Thanks for taking the time to post this very detailed information. Your regen data appears very similar to mine with a lifetime regen average distance of every 117 miles. In your ownership this appears to have fallen to every 73 miles.My DPF regen history:
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Each block of points as highlighted by colour is continuous data; on occasion I didn't make a record for a short period for whatever reason (so after the first block of blue points the regen count will be off by some amount that I haven't worked out). I bought the car in March 2022 with around 34,605 miles at which point it had done 212 regenerations. Now it's on 73,551 miles with 628 regens (I have a long commute of 50+ miles each way including 35 miles of motorway!). I've never had any warning lights on the dash related to DPF issues nor any DTCs reported. The oil dilution as read by Forscan has been 0.0 g the entire time. The DPF differential pressure has always dropped to 0.0 or 'error' kPa at idle after every regen, which makes me think the DPF has no issues clearing itself (I assume the 'error' is due to the pressure difference being too low to be detected).
See comparison with MPG over a similar time period:
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It's kinda frustrating that the car always over-estimates the MPG by anywhere from 15 - 22%!
On the two occasions that I've inspected the high pressure EGR valve and the intake manifold they've both had a lot of soot build-up, as had the inlet ports which I could just about see. The first time I cleaned the front side of the EGR valve and the EGR pipe to the manifold out but the soot returned within 10,000 miles or so. The soot was all dry apart from an oily patch in the top of the manifold. At some point I'd like to try a proper clean, i.e. manifold off, EGR valve off, inlet ports cleaned etc.
The one time I've cleaned the MAP sensor it was only a little oily. The intercooler core I could see through the hole to be clean. Doing so did not appear to make any difference to the regen intervals. I may clean the MAF sensor as well for good measure though I may leave it as they can be delicate. From when I've changed/cleaned the air filter it has only looked a little dusty.
You can test actuators/valves in Forscan: How to use Output Control mode in FORScan 2.2.* - FORScan forum though I haven't tried it myself for the EGR valves.
The only thing that I have found to consistently increase the regeneration interval other than driving very conservatively was adding half a bottle of Redex DPF cleaner to every tank (the 300 - 350 regen count period in the plot above, 65-70,000 miles in the MPG plot) which also noticeably increased the MPG. I stopped doing this as of late to see what the intervals might drop down to without it. Earlier in the year Toolstation were selling the stuff for ÂŁ4.50 a bottle though it's now ÂŁ6.99.
At some point I'll check the resistance of the glow plugs, it should be around 20 ohms to be in spec.
Good morning,Bonjour,
j'ai une mazda 2 1.5 skyactiv-d. j'avais aussi des régénérations tous les 120-130km.j'ai nettoyé le collecteur d'admission et désactivé la vanne EGR électroniquement. société br performance à Paris.
maintenant la voiture fonctionne beaucoup mieux, l'huile reste propre, la voiture consomme moins et les régénérations se font tous les 400-450km. désolé je ne parle pas bien l'anglais.
I also changed my fuel filter recently, but it made no appreciable difference to the regen intervals. It was well due though, the filter core/element(?) was entirely brown and there was lots of gunk (rust I assume) in the bottom. The diesel that I poured out of the tank side was filthy! (Though the diesel coming out the other side looked perfectly clean). I filled the new filter with Liqui Moly diesel purge before refitting for good measureThanks for taking the time to post this very detailed information. Your regen data appears very similar to mine with a lifetime regen average distance of every 117 miles. In your ownership this appears to have fallen to every 73 miles.
You have done 39,000 miles in 18 months which is the perfect usage scenario for a diesel which should both minimise the number of failed regens and oil dilution. However, all the long journeys appear not to have improve the regen intervals?
Since last October I have done 6500 miles and the Oil life meter is down to 10% and the oil level is half way to the X. I have been using archoil diesel additive in every tank and redex every 3 months.
I have come to the conclusion that the Mazda DPF system is flawed and post the emissions fix in 2019 the software was altered to get the cars to regen more often to counter the excessive soot generation. An active regen in my VW Passat varies from every 250-300 miles.
I am torn between keeping our Mazda 2 as it costs zero road tax, ÂŁ150/year to insure and averages 65mpg but I know its potentially a ticking time bomb. DPF off/remap or MX-5?
I did change the fuel filter last week and then got a regen interval of more than 100 miles but I doubt they are related.
I am of the opinion that maybe I am chasing rainbows trying to improve the regen intervals. I think I should just stop thinking about it and leave it alone!
I very much hope it's a build-up issue and not an injector issue! At least in that case I might be able to improve things myself with a good dismantle and clean.Jamazda your mpg is quite impressive and you are driving long distances which is what Mazda designed the diesel for it would seem, but your regen intervals are a bit on the low side considering your driving pattern as I would expect 150 -200 mile intervals. Prior to you buying it the interval was 163 miles which is a decent average for an unknown driving pattern. So now we are down to 117 average.
Your oil dilution is hardly registering which means no partial regens and your daily hot runs burn off anything that appears in the sump.
To me it looks more like breathing (a build up of carbon) than overfueling (faulty injectors).
When my injectors failed and this was a gradual thing after the first year with yearly average mpg going down until 49/ 50k when the sump would rise, dilution into 3 figures, regens down to 30 miles and life regen average down to 70 miles, DPF code up on the dash eventually, yet the DPF was doing its job, but too frequently. The dealer replaced the DPF DP sensor on my dime but it came back, he hadn't a clue as he replaced it again on his dime thinking it was faulty, then it happened again, by which time he knew it couldn't be the sensor. He contacted Mazda EUr in Kent, who asked him to take a data download from my ECU, this didn't prove much, so he was asked to do another one but go deeper. Of course this was before and during Covid at which point I was doing a 500 mile round trip sat on 70 once a month or less. Mazda EUR tried to blame it on me not having a service at a Mazda dealership (horlicks), I was changing my oil myself, a service wouldn't have made any difference as they miss stuff. Then they said the bores and injectors were rusting due to trapped moisture during Covid which we named Covid Rust (more Horlicks).
My SM asked the Engineer at Mazda EUr a question and he said you could tell from the tone of his voice that he was having to toe the party line not supply the correct answer. Eventually they asked for photographs of the injector nozzle tips showing the holes, which appeared to have had enlarged. This was due to cavitation erosion caused by the high injection pressures (300 bar) wearing the holes due to a bad batch of injectors from Denso a Japanese parts company partly or wholly owned by Toyota. Several other manufacturers fitted Denso injectors, Vauxhaul for one but they could have been a different model of injector .
The outcome eventually after a lot of letters from me to Mazda EUr was a new set of injectors with about a 30% discount on parts and labour ( the labour being a small part of the cost).
Fuel consumption on the same run went from 40 mpg to 65mpg and regen frequency from 30 miles to close to 200.
Since Covid I am not doing the long distance journeys so regens I noticed were increasing.
It would seem that Mazda is not as generous with replacing their failed parts under warranty and try and put people off until its outside the warranty period, this all came about towards the end of Covid as they made a so called 'loss' as people weren't driving so no servicing and repairs. The only reason we are in an inflationary period now is that companies are upping prices to replace the profits they lost during Covid.
I always say, "What you haven't had you haven't missed".
Might be slightly different on Mazda 2 & CX-3 as fuel filter is underneath the car next to the fuel tank and is a bitch to change. Definitely seen documentation about draining every 12 months and there was a service option on Forscan lite app to reset drain interval. I think if you get too much water in the filter, the sensor picks this up and the orange spanner starts flashing on the instrument cluster.I don't think the filter can be drained automatically, its a screwed drain, but the wire is the water sensor. Cannot say I have seen anything about a drain interval in Fòrscan but will have another look. No nothing there.
You will need to remove the battery and put a small container under the drain.
The fuel filter change interval depends on mileage rather than time like most things. They are assuming people drive 12k per year.
I have not used Feathers, but give them a call for a price.