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Newbie… I have a 2009 Masada hatchback, it makes the same but more intense sound while braking/ reversing. Lastly a less intense version while actually driving. The photo might have something to due with the problem.

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Newbie… I have a 2009 Masada hatchback, it makes the same but more intense sound while braking/ reversing. Lastly a less intense version while actually driving. The photo might have something to due with the problem.

Thank you!!
Not sure why you circled the springs -- did you examine the springs for breakage, especially at the bottom end of the coils? Have you ruled out excessive/irregular wear of the brake pads?
 

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Really strange that so little movement is creating so much noise. Don't think it could be the brakes, as you can make the noise while the car is not moving, but you should have a look at them just to be sure.

Next I'd check is the exhaust. Try wiggling the muffler tips and/or the pipe under the car to see if that's where it's coming from. Loose heat shields will make a heck of a racket. Also stick your head under the car while someone else wiggles it to try and get a more accurate source for the noise.

As hatch said, the springs had a tendency to corrode on the bottom and snap bits off. It's often hard to see this when the car is on the ground, but jack it up and reach your fingers in there and trace the coil down to the end and feel for broken-off bits laying in there. There's also supposed to be an insulator on each end to keep the spring from squeaking as the spring flexes. While the car is in the air, check the mounts at the top of the rear shocks, as they tend to crack and break off one of the bolt tabs. Other than that, shake all the suspension bits and rear subframe to see if something is loose. Also look around for bare metal, as a squeak like that sounds like metal on metal and there should be a mark there somewhere.
 

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Not sure why you circled the springs -- did you examine the springs for breakage, especially at the bottom end of the coils? Have you ruled out excessive/irregular wear of the brake pads?
I’ve circled them because they are so uneven, if you can’t tell the right spring is very low to the ground and the left isn’t.
 

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So, have you figured out where the noise is coming from? Everyone is telling you to get your head under the car and try to locate it, because that's what we'd do if it were our car. So try that and get back to us, then we'll be happy to give advice on what to do about it. If you aren't willing to do that, then take it to a mechanic.

Oh, and giving the frown to the forum moderator (who spends a lot of his time helping all of us, and who gave you the same advice as everyone else) doesn't endear you to anyone or get your problem solved any faster.
 

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Oh, and giving the frown to the forum moderator (who spends a lot of his time helping all of us, and who gave you the same advice as everyone else) doesn't endear you to anyone or get your problem solved any faster.
I just took it as expressing sadness/disappointment that an expert was confirming that something is definitely wrong/broken. Not helpful, sure, but more on the benign end of the spectrum.

I agree that @Jamieb would show respect for the community's time by closing the loop about what the issue is found to be. I'm going to put my money on a damaged spring -- the height discrepancy and sensitive shrill sound seems consistent with a sharp spring edge scraping nearby metal and resonating through the spring.
 

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I just took it as expressing sadness/disappointment that an expert was confirming that something is definitely wrong/broken. Not helpful, sure, but more on the benign end of the spectrum.

I agree that @Jamieb would show respect for the community's time by closing the loop about what the issue is found to be. I'm going to put my money on a damaged spring -- the height discrepancy and sensitive shrill sound seems consistent with a sharp spring edge scraping nearby metal and resonating through the spring.
Yeah, thats how I took it.....OP not real familiar with mechanical stuff not happy receiving bad news. At least it isn't that serious, its an easy fix if you can do it and not terribly expensive. A good excuse to upgrade also....
 

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I didn’t know one sad face would be taken so seriously, just a broke college girl who’s grandpa taught her some mechanics. I’m putting to the real test and honestly to put a smile on his face since we are long distance I send him short videos to remind him…I know no one cares as this is a car discussion. I’ve jacked it up, and it’s not the springs. When I spin the back right tire simply it makes that sound. I could upload a video if that would help you guys… I’ll be back on to research of these forums and YouTube.
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I didn’t know one sad face would be taken so seriously, just a broke college girl who’s grandpa taught her some mechanics. I’m putting to the real test and honestly to put a smile on his face since we are long distance I send him short videos to remind him…I know no one cares as this is a car discussion. I’ve jacked it up, and it’s not the springs. When I spin the back right tire simply it makes that sound. I could upload a video if that would help you guys… I’ll be back on to research of these forums and YouTube.
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A 15 to 30-second video would be great. (One or more minutes demonstrating the sound and clearly showing the brake and suspension components with the affected wheel off may be even better.) FWIW, not everyone took it so seriously; I think it's just easy to misunderstand text and emoji, and the active users here (myself included) can sometimes get annoyed if we think someone might be abusing our good will (e.g., brand new users asking for help, then giving radio silence when that help is offered). I think you've been good with responding, and the initial video was helpful, albeit too brief. (I had thought you meant your sound was like the video, but only when driving/breaking/reversing; but it seems you meant that it's actually your car in the video also.)

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I didn’t know one sad face would be taken so seriously, just a broke college girl who’s grandpa taught her some mechanics. I’m putting to the real test and honestly to put a smile on his face since we are long distance I send him short videos to remind him…I know no one cares as this is a car discussion. I’ve jacked it up, and it’s not the springs. When I spin the back right tire simply it makes that sound. I could upload a video if that would help you guys… I’ll be back on to research of these forums and YouTube.
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Well, aint I the jerk. My apologies Jamieb, I misunderstood you. By way of explanation (not excuse), we get plenty of brand new users that ask questions with incomplete information, aren't willing to get their hands dirty, get annoyed when the internet doesn't provide their answer all tied up with a pretty bow, and never get back with more information. So once again, I apologize, and hope you won't hold it against the group.

Back to the issue at hand. If it makes the sound when the car gets pushed sideways when parked, and makes the sound when the wheel is rotated, that helps. I'm wondering if that right rear bearing is bad. If you jacked up the car (emergency brake off), gave the wheel a shake by grabbing it at the 3 and 9 o'clock positions, then pushing slightly with one hand while pulling with the other, then reversing that to waggle the wheel back and forth. Is there any play or clunking noises? When you spin that wheel, is it hard to spin, feel gritty when spinning, or make ticking or clunking noises? Those are all signs of a bad bearing. Lots of YT videos on how to test and replace wheel bearings if my explanation wasn't clear.

As long as it's jacked up, remove the wheel and check the brakes too. If the pads were worn down to the backing plate (from normal wear or from a stuck caliper or slide pin), it could make nasty screeching noises.
 

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I’ve jacked it up, and it’s not the springs.
From the picture it appears that the spring on the left side of the car might have some sort of issue. The control arm looks almost level, where the other side has the proper downward angle. You can't always tell by just jacking up the car. Many times a broke coil will wind itself between the other coils and you can't tell until you remove the spring.
Is the video your car?
If the car makes the noise when the wheel is rotating and also makes a noise when moved side to side there could be more than one issue. More specific information needed, maybe more pictures...
 
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