Before you do anything-
If you are going to autocross at all, read the classing rules. Some of those changes will put you in a higher class that will make your car totally noncompetitive.
Read between the lines so to speak:smile2:-
If you are going to autocross at all, read the classing rules. Some of those changes will put you in a higher class that will make your car totally noncompetitive.
Read between the lines so to speak:smile2:-
And so the research began. Side note, a buddy of mine took me to autocross for the first time last month. Now I know what the excitement is all about...
I’m even fairly sure I could even do the front sway bar without issue, but I’m gonna hold off on that for a little while.
Now that you have the background, here’s the meat of my question: Would you please look at the list of equipment and goals below and give me feed back about
1) will it meet my stated goals?
2) is it the best bang for the buck?
3) is there anything I’m missing: parts, pieces, adapters, special tools, bushings, knowledge, etc?
4) what (and why) would you do differently to meet the stated goals?
5) is there a better/cheaper place to purchase these parts from? Or better/cheaper parts to meet these goals?
Vehicle in question:
2012 Mazda 3 i Grand Touring 5-Door Hatchback 2.0L 6-speed Automatic w/SKYACTIV-G
Goals: This is primarily a comfortable daily driver car that wants to have some occasional serious fun.
A) As cheaply as possible, preferably within or very close to the $1500 budget
B) Improve handling performance over stock without any negative impacts or unexpected quirks (like snap oversteering).
C) Provide a comfortable, smooth, and predictable ride that is easy to handle for a non-aggressive driver. I don’t want it jarring her teeth out and having her complain “WHAT DID YOU DO TO MY CAR?!?! IT’S HORRIBLE!!!”
D) Maintain as close to stock ride height as possible. Very unsmooth driveway, ground clearance is important, and neither of us likes the super slammed look; also maintains options for wheel and tire sizes.
E) Improve occasional spirited street driving sessions for an aggressive driver.
F) Maximizes fun for monthly autocross events.
G) Minimize body roll in hard cornering.
Disclaimer: Yes, I know tires are going to be one of the biggest points in handling performance. I'll get to that soon. I’ve already picked up a new to me set of rims that surprisingly came with some good rubber on them. My plan is to run out both the current set on the car and the set on the new rims. By then, it’ll be justifiable to put new tires on: “Look hon, your tires are kinda worn out, its time to replace them.” without hearing “But we just put so much money in to it already!!” By then, the budget’ll have recovered and I’ll put good quality grippy daily drivers that’ll last a while on the stock rims, and performance stickies on the new rims for autocross events only.
It’s a fairly short list
Koni FSD Shock Absorbers 2100-4039 2012 MAZDA 3
summitracing
$617
Good choice there
Racing Beat Sway Bar - Rear 2010-13 Mazda 3 2.5L/2.0L
racingbeat
$170
Thats ok too.
Racing Beat Suspension Spring Set 2012-13 2.0L SKYACTIV
racingbeat
$213
Those are fine
Moog Rear Sway Bar End Links (stock are probably worn, would like something beefier)
rockauto
$26 x2
$52
Might be ok with these, but when lowering you should use adjustable endlinks to keep the sway bar geometry correct.
Doorman Strut Bearing (might as well replace them, they’re cheep)
rockauto
$22 x2
$44
Good choice. Always replace the mounts when replacing the struts.
Coil Spring Compressors (only tools I’m lacking for the job)
amazon
$37
They are cheaper at Harbor Freight.:smile2:
Spline Drive Lug Nuts (for the new autoX rims)
amazon
$21
Ok, but they will gall up the rims a bit when you torque them. The McGard splines have a 2 piece lug with a floating seat that doesn't do that.
What rims? And what tires for Autocross? That is important.
Suspension Total
$1,154
Also looking for recommendations on break pads. Probably about due for a set and figured while I’ve got the wheels off... I’m currently considering EBC RedSuff. Don’t care about break dust, my driveway is a almost a half mile dirt road so brake dust is going to be the least noticeable dirtiness. Most important factors are stopping power, longevity of pad and rotor, daily driver friendly so no warm up requirements, and fade resistance for occasional lap and cool type autocross sessions. Has EBC fixed that backplate separation problem yet? Any other suggestions (that might be a little cheaper)? EBC is expensive. I don’t mind “pay to play” and all, just wanna make sure I get my money’s worth.
EBC Red Stuff
Front
summitracing
$117 x2
$234
Rear
summitracing
$108 x2
$216
EBC Total
$450
I have EBC greens on my Miata and they work fine. Not a lot of dust either.
Grand Total
$1,604 (plus a little for tax and shipping)
Still a few unanswered questions tho, so if anybody has info on these, please chime in.
1) The RB springs are the closest to stock height I can find with on only 0.5 inch drop. While I’m planning to get an alignment immediately after installing everything, am I going to run into any issues with non adjustable camber on the rear or should I be looking at the adjustable camber arms too?
Not enough drop to worry about with these springs.
2) Whats the diameter of the holes on the RB RSB vs the moog end links? Am I going to need bushings? Does the RB RSB come with those bushings if I do need them?
They will work ok.
3) CorkSport only offers a MazdaSpeed 3 RSB (2 positions for 119% and 180% of stock), I assume it will fit a non-Speed 3, but judging by the posts on the forum it seems like the Racing Beat RSB is the better fit, even though the current version is nonadjustable.
Progress and Whiteline make excellent rear bars that are adjustable.
4) Just to verify, the RB springs (which are within 1 inch of stock height) should work fine with the Koni FSD’s right? I know FSD's are "not for use with lowering springs."
Not true. I have FSDs and my car is lowered 45mm in the rear and 30mm in front and they work just fine.
Thoughts? Opinions? Advice? I’m all ears. Thank you in advance.