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so i'm looking to see what offset would make the wheels flush something wider than stock.

First off, what is the stock offset of the 2010 MS3?

Secondly, what are the previous models running, any pics?

I'm hoping to go 9" wide or more possibly....
 

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Oh, I wasn't recommending the thread for the aggressive fitment you're after, but more for info on what the stock off set is, etc. The stock offset on a regular Mazda3 17" wheel is +50. You can see on that thread "jankyboy" went with 18x 7.5 with a +52 offset. That should help some with figuring out what offset you would want, depending on how wide a wheel you go with.
 

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On another forum, someone said they were 18x7.5-32.5. I'm not sure if that is correct, but he seemed very confident. Since the MS3 fenders are wider, I believe it. According to my calculations, the fenders would have to be 1" wider for a 32.5 offset to sit the same as the 3s with 17x7-50's.

So, if the MS3 indeed does have 1" wider fenders, then you could probably run 18x9's. The offset is the big question. I would guess a 30, but who knows. Sitting flush on the outside is easy. Not rubbing on the inside can get tricky with 3's. Also, it may not be worth it if you have to run some sissy narrow tires that are all stretched out. Completely defeats the point.
 

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ok - found a couple of MS3's running 9" wide low 30s... even though they're running rotas :blink:

MS3 Wheel Fitment Pics & Specs! - Mazda Forums
Yeah, I saw that pic on a different forum. Beside the fact they are Rotas, I don't think it looks good. That is beyond flush. Once your wheels start sticking out like that, it doesn't look aggressive. It looks like you don't know how you buy wheels/tires that fit properly, imo. I think the 2010 can handle a little wider wheels though, so let's talk about the 2010's. Fact - the stock 2010 MS3 wheels are 1/2" wider than the 1st gen MS3's. So, let's just assume that there is another 1/2" depth to the wheel well. Given that, 18x9's should fit with an offset around 30-35. You may also have to run some camber to get them tucked.
 

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You might want to consider this...

The wheel offset is crucial for handling as changing the offset will change the way the stress applied by the road to the car is transferred to the suspension.

The most important thing to keep in mind, however, is the front wheels and not only because the car is FWD.

I am going to link a good article, but if you don't want to read through, here's the summary:
there is a distance between the pivot point of the front wheels and the centre of the front tires contact patch. This is called "Scrub Radius". Usually, the SR on a FWD car is negative. This has a stabilizing effect in situations in which one of the front wheels might lose traction, no matter what the circumstances.
It also affects the steering feel and the ability of the driver to control the car.

Reducing the offset negatively affects both the two things I mentioned as it makes the negative SR less negative or even positive, reducing or canceling it completely. Furthermore, it does another 2 things:
1) puts greater stress on some suspension components, thus making it possible that some suspension components which never fail, could fail over time
2) reduces the stiffness of the springs because it changes the leverage favourably for the wheel, which has a better leverage to transfer forces to the springs.

Then, you'd have to seriously look at rubbing issues, especially if you are thinking about a setup similar to those in that thread posted... I can't believe those cars actually are driveable...

Just a little heads up.
For further reading:

Stretched Tire Look, Scrub Radius and Wheel Spacing - Guide To Proper Honda Wheel Offset - Honda Tuning Magazine

Scrub radius: Information from Answers.com

Scrub radius - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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