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I agree with everything you said. I could have written it myself. Almost. Except the part about low profile tires riding better. If undamped travel in high profile tire causes ride deterioration, then shouldn't lower inflation pressures in a given tire size also ride worse? That increases undamped travel as well. Isn't this why tires are pneumatic and not solid in the first place? If undamped travel causes a worse ride, wouldn't solid tires with no give provide the best ride.? Don't think so. Are low-profile tires ruining your ride?

, In my Particular case I did not notice any deterioration in handling with slightly lower rear tire pressures. Had I a skid pad handy or even some nice tight curvy roads to push hard on around here to make comparisons , I might have been able to to discern a difference.
Also, using less air at the lightly loaded rear is an old autocrosser's trick to reduce understeer in front heavy cars, though in that case pressure is added at both ends, just a lot more at the front.
That's why I did not reduce air at the front much.
Yes. it will increase wear at the back but likely still nowhere near the wear rate of the heavily loaded front end. Tires need rotated less often?
Fuel economy will be worse. I need to make real world comparisons there, to see if I can live with the difference. I could except 1mpg less but probably not 2.

I should have done a better job of evaluating the car before purchase. Based on reviews and my short test rides on relatively smooth roads, I expected it to ride and handle in a similar manner to my 2016 Golf or 2014 3. I was smitten by its good looks and quiet, attractive cabin.
It rides a little worse than the old 3. A lot worse than the Golf. It handles slower than either.

By the way, stock tire is a 215/45/18, not a 225.
OK on yours. Ours 2015 M3 Grand Touring 225/45/18 very stock. Not as smooth on our potholes and repair mounds at 70 mph as our old 929 with full tire pressure (or handle as well). BUT remember real drivers LIKE road feel. Low profile tires are more sensitive to suspension design. Good road feel may save you life some day.
 

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I like road feel. I built a vehicle so rich in road feel through the formula car r&p that you can roll over a dime and tell the year it was minted.. Incidentally, It does not have particularly low profile tires. 165/55 14 front. 175/55 17 rear 16psi front, 25 rear.

I know, apples and oranges, just having a little fun here.


Hope that helps with my "real driver" bonafides Wolfe.
 

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road feel is good.
OK on yours. Ours 2015 M3 Grand Touring 225/45/18 very stock. Not as smooth on our potholes and repair mounds at 70 mph as our old 929 with full tire pressure (or handle as well). BUT remember real drivers LIKE road feel. Low profile tires are more sensitive to suspension design. Good road feel may save you life some day.
The 2015 stock size is 215/45/18 bumping up to the 225/45/18 makes a solid difference on the ride.
 

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The 2015 stock size is 215/45/18 bumping up to the 225/45/18 makes a solid difference on the ride.
All other things being equal, I can see the taller sidewall helping but I would think lots of other variables play a part as well. What is the specific tire you got good results with?
 

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The overall difference in the sidewall height between those two size tires is a whopping .2". Not enough to make a big difference. Tire construction plays a bigger role - carcass rigidity, sidewall stiffness or whatever.
 

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Not a bad idea.
As a matter of habit, I used to bump a tire size every time as the originals wore out. I will do it in this case in the unlikely event I keep the car into a second set of tires.
Then again, I might replace them early if they get noisy with a bit of tread wear as low profile tires often do.
So can you put 225 tyres on the new Mazda 3 if they are 215.....if so does that improve tyre noise?
 

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My 2021 M3 hatch has 18" BRIDGESTONE TURANZA EL440 on it and I'm finding them a bit harsh. Any recommendations on a replacement 18 with more comfortable ride? I've found the following Vredestein QUATRAC PRO on Tire-rack website. Anyone has tried them? Are they really more comfortable?

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Wow, looks like stock tires are crummy and expensive....
I am not familiar with the Vredestine Brand. If you buy those things please report back if they are worthy of those ratings.
 
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