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So I got pad fade today with stock pads and castrol srf fluid. I have previously been careful to tip toe around it but my pads are getting thin now and I just want to upgrade.

I don't care about dust as long as it is not corrosive. I need higher temp and low (no) noise cold.

I am considering EBC red but had mixed result when i used EBC yellow years ago when they had pad crumbling problems.

I like carbotech, I would get an XP8 but my prior experience is these sound like a freight train when cold.

Need opinions from the wise members.

Edit: i have an sTouring hatch
 

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I've used EBC red and they also can scream like a steam train whistle until they wear in- which may take months of normal driving. To avoid this noise you need to use the tyre smoking break in procedure EBC recommend.
 

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EBC Green Stuff 2000 here.

Upgrading the rotors helps too. I got the EBC RK series.
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I've used EBC red and they also can scream like a steam train whistle until they wear in- which may take months of normal driving. To avoid this noise you need to use the tyre smoking break in procedure EBC recommend.
Thank you for the info. I have done those bed in procedures but have found if you don't brake hard every day it wears off in a day or two.

Have you tried it with EBC red?

EBC Green Stuff 2000 here.

Upgrading the rotors helps too. I got the EBC RK series.
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I thought EBC green was an OEM replacement option. Does it have higher temp rating?

As I understand gloc is equivalent (or even just different label) to carbotech. I have used Carbotech 1521 in the past and it is an OEM replacement, not a higher temp pad.

I see the gloc has a rating of 800, I wonder what the OEM pad is rated for. Even the R6 says it will squeal which is my experience with the AX6, XP8 and above from carbotech.
 

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So I got pad fade today with stock pads and castrol srf fluid. I have previously been careful to tip toe around it but my pads are getting thin now and I just want to upgrade.

I don't care about dust as long as it is not corrosive. I need higher temp and low (no) noise cold.

I am considering EBC red but had mixed result when i used EBC yellow years ago when they had pad crumbling problems.

I like carbotech, I would get an XP8 but my prior experience is these sound like a freight train when cold.

Need opinions from the wise members.

Edit: i have an sTouring hatch
I'm on reds, bedded in, & they bite better than stock.

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"Have you tried it with EBC red? ". Yes the noise goes after a while, but in the meantime the whole neighborhood knows when your coming and going.
 

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"Have you tried it with EBC red? ". Yes the noise goes after a while, but in the meantime the whole neighborhood knows when your coming and going.
Hmmm. Odd. Never had such noises w/ reds & greens(on another car).

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The greens are miles better than OEM. Smooth stopping, quiet, bites hard when you want.. i commute to Downtown LA.. when we were allowed.. and they are perfect.. The reds are a bit overkill for our 3 IMO.
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I'm on reds, bedded in, & they bite better than stock.

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How is the noise? Do you ever have to rebed them?

The greens are miles better than OEM. Smooth stopping, quiet, bites hard when you want.. i commute to Downtown LA.. when we were allowed.. and they are perfect.. The reds are a bit overkill for our 3 IMO.
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I drive my car a bit harder than stop light to stop light, no disrespect intended. That's why i exceeded the OEM heat capacity. I need higher temp pads.
 

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The Ultimax pads are OEM replacements. The Green Stuff 2000 are designed for cars like ours in the 200 bhp range. Less friction and improved fade resistance. The pads combined with improved rotors, like the EBC RK series, and you have a nice little setup.
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Pads choice on stock brake calipers is very limited. If you want to have the flexibility to put whatever pad you want you have to change the front brake caliper (as I did).
Personally, I don't like EBC. From my experience, Reds came out cooked after 1 track day and Ultimax are junk.
 

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Thank you for the info. I have done those bed in procedures but have found if you don't brake hard every day it wears off in a day or two.

Have you tried it with EBC red?



I thought EBC green was an OEM replacement option. Does it have higher temp rating?


As I understand gloc is equivalent (or even just different label) to carbotech. I have used Carbotech 1521 in the past and it is an OEM replacement, not a higher temp pad.

I see the gloc has a rating of 800, I wonder what the OEM pad is rated for. Even the R6 says it will squeal which is my experience with the AX6, XP8 and above from carbotech.
The G-Loc owners were Carbotech engineers for many years...
 

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I'm interested in G-Loc too.

EBC doesn't make rear pads for my ride, but G-Loc does... EPB BS..

It would be nice to upgrade both.
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So I got pad fade today with stock pads and castrol srf fluid. I have previously been careful to tip toe around it but my pads are getting thin now and I just want to upgrade.

I don't care about dust as long as it is not corrosive. I need higher temp and low (no) noise cold.

I am considering EBC red but had mixed result when i used EBC yellow years ago when they had pad crumbling problems.

I like carbotech, I would get an XP8 but my prior experience is these sound like a freight train when cold.

Need opinions from the wise members.

Edit: i have an sTouring hatch
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