So I have been in the market for camber arms and I was trying to get the DE ones well after about 3 months never heard back from him of course. So I went with the CS ones as they allowed for the most camber. Anyway right after I had received them a used DE set popped up and I snagged it. So my loss is your gain here. Retail is 199.99 +shipping on these CS arms I am trying to get $170 Shipped as they have never been used at all.