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I wasnt sure where else to put this since is isnt a section for 2017's yet


Im reaching the end of VW diesel buyback process and I will be looking at purchasing a new car. Specifically:

2017 Mazda 3 Grand Touring Hatchback

Premium Package

Soul Red Metallic

Black interior

Backup sensors

and possibly the Aero Package.

I was wondering about the last 2. Did anyone purchase these for their car? I would much rather have them then the camera, personally. Are these dealer installed items?

And the Aero package, I was wondering how much ground clearance is lost with these installed. Are these also dealer installed items?

I've looked at every dealership website in a 250m radius of me and I havent found a single car with these specific options.
 

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I was in a similar boat but ordered by 2017 a while ago and tdi is parked (just got my offer letter finally)

Anyway, backup cameras are a law at least is some places...backup alerts I'm not sure about. However I can tell you a couple things about the appearance package.

First, the 2017s changed so all the cheaper 3rd party skirts and lips don't fit totally. So if you want that look and you can't wait, then get it. If you can wait and want to save a decent amount of money...wait.

Second, the appearance package really doesn't add much of a drop from the cars existing lines. For example, the rear diffuser ends basically where the original back bumper ends...it just adds shape to it. Same with the sides and front lip...others can chime in but I'd be surprised if it takes more than an inch off.

If you plan on slamming the car, then I wouldn't get it. Last thing you'd want to do it start scraping a $1,300 add on.
 

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Nowak1981, nice car you are thinking of. I too am getting one almost identical to yours, though because of a few different things including scarce supply of that combo, I will be ordering/waiting for mine.

I am choosing, since the rear view camera is standard, not to additionally get the extra-cost back-up sensors (not due to cost but because I hate trying to keep those small circular sensor rings free of stuff that often makes them look like wax-build up in them) -- but like all things, we each get to choose.

The parking sensors are port-installed on the hatch on an "ordered" car; someone smarter than me in this area can chime in if they can also be dealer installed.

I am getting the Appearance/Aero package, and am willing to go from 6.1" ground clearance to roughly 5". However, the above caution of getting the front splitter for those who are going to additional lower their car is spot on. And some have "walked this line" by choosing to get the some or all other aero components dealer installed (skipping the optional port-installed, five-item Appearance/Aero package and additionally skipping the dealer installed front spoiler) because they want the lowered stance. Going this way, you get to choose which if any of the four remaining A/A package items who would want dealer installed.
 

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Im not lowering my car, I just wanted to know if it would still be drivable in the winter for me. I have a few areas that have big dips and I dont really want to scrape the bumper if I can help it. The ride height on the passat is 5.4 inches and the stock mazda is 6.1, like you mentioned. If the kit really does only add about 1" then I should be ok. I may end up getting some oversized winter tires to help raise the car a little bit,

I found the part numbers to the aero kit somewhere, they are all pre-painted pieces. I would opt-out of the mirror caps for sure, and do black bottoms. Not sure about the wing yet. I like the kit because its not very over the top, and tend to be pretty well made. Although i have not really looked into any of the aftermarket even if they are for the older models.

My dealer here is awful, I've been talking to the guy since the beginning of november and he always dodges my questions, I had to ask him three times if the aero kit and the backup sensors were dealer or factory installed. He still hasnt answered me on what brand remote starts they sell....

I have a feeling Im gonna need to buy a beater car until I can pick a better dealer, he is avoiding wanting to order a car and I dont know why. I wonder how costcoauto works when you order?

Do you guys know if there will be an update for android carplay for these cars?
 

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Costco pairs up with a dealer to get you a car at $800 over invoice. Problem is for Mazda that is only $200 under MSRP.

I bought my first Mazda that way. My 2017 was more of a True Car deal, at least at the starting point.

You should be able to get $1k off sticker at a min. Otherwise walk. I got 2k off mine but used loyalties.
 

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Also, the oem appearance is about $400 per piece (with the caps tossed in). Aftermarket runs $100 for the front, $150 for the sides, but the rear diffusers are harder. Found some oem on ebay for $380.

Again, problem being they are for 2016.
 

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I just happened to be looking through my local dealerships website and a came across a bunch of rebates, enough to make it seem like a good deal without even haggling too much

27,680 MSRP
+500 Rear parking Sensors
= 28180

500 Military Rebate
750 VW Conquest
500 + 0% for 63 months

that would put the car at 26,430. If I offered that price OTD, would that be a reasonable offer, settle somewhere in the <27000 range?
 

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Its 5% tax (about 12-1300$) and I figured 400 in title and fees.

BTW how do you edit a post?
 

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Costco pairs up with a dealer to get you a car at $800 over invoice. Problem is for Mazda that is only $200 under MSRP.

I bought my first Mazda that way. My 2017 was more of a True Car deal, at least at the starting point.

You should be able to get $1k off sticker at a min. Otherwise walk. I got 2k off mine but used loyalties.
I just picked up my 2017 Mazda 3 GT in snowflake white for just over $25k. About $1,500 off MSRP. No haggling. I walked in and told him what I wanted and how much I wanted to pay for it.
 

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I parked my TDI two days ago when I picked up my M3 HB GT. I took mats, nav and winter tires on alloys to go with the 18"s. All for about $7k less than a comparable Golf. If the Golf is comparable driver to the 2.5 GT. Which I am not sure about after two back to back 150km runs in the M3.

However the road noise is noticably louder and they tend to have rust issues. So I am going to take it to a detailer and get a really good undercoat (as well as rust proofing, cloth tratment and paint treatment).

I wanted to get Premium as well but there were none here so I took the big discount on the GT without it in my 3rd choice color ($1500 off and 16" alloys for winters above the $550 to finance). Basically paid for mats, tires and Nav.



I wasnt sure where else to put this since is isnt a section for 2017's yet


Im reaching the end of VW diesel buyback process and I will be looking at purchasing a new car. Specifically:

2017 Mazda 3 Grand Touring Hatchback

Premium Package

Soul Red Metallic

Black interior

Backup sensors

and possibly the Aero Package.

I was wondering about the last 2. Did anyone purchase these for their car? I would much rather have them then the camera, personally. Are these dealer installed items?

And the Aero package, I was wondering how much ground clearance is lost with these installed. Are these also dealer installed items?

I've looked at every dealership website in a 250m radius of me and I havent found a single car with these specific options.
 

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We went and got an sGT with 6M but without any addons 300 miles away back in September. If I was ordering one, I'd get the package (now available in the 6M, not in 2016) that includes the I-ELOOP. This should pick the fuel mileage up equal to the iGT's. The I-ELOOP stores braking energy into a capacitor, which slowly releases it to power accessories.

The backup camera is useful to know how close you're getting. Better to use the side view mirrors to back up.

As far as feelers go, it's out on the front corners where they're needed. Otherwise, one has no idea on these modern cars where the front corners are. We kept our 1983 Benz so long because we could actually see all 4 corners. Both of us did smash jobs on the lower rocker panel of the Jetta because we couldn't tell where the right corner of the car was.

Jetta went away on December 22nd. Went and got a 2013 Miata GT with the Premium Package (found out later) and only 8,800 miles. It's a gem.

Our 2016 sGT drives like a Bimmer (had driven a couple before), and the Miata GT drives like a Benz (owned 2 for 32 years). I test drove a BMW 320 right after driving a Mazda3 back in September. The Mazda was better. They're rated exactly the same on Consumer Reports.

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I pulled the trigger and bought my car. 2017 Mazda 3 Grand Touring Auto Hatchback. It has the premium package and I had the rear backup sensors install. The car was about 200 miles away in Burnsville Minnesota, near St. Paul. (Burnsville Mazda)

I had tried to buy one locally but my salesman didn't want to answer any of my questions until i was ready to buy. His loss I guess. They didn't have the car I wanted anyway and they probably would have dealer transferred this exact car since I found out that this car was only one of three available for sale in the US currently.

I purchased the car on 12-28-16. I wanted to take advantage of the the holiday rebates before they expired on the 3rd of Jan.

I inquired about the car online and they connected me to my salesman Scott Myers. I had sent along three somewhat unusal questions about that car which he was able to answer immediately. After dealing for weeks with my crappy sales guy here in town, this guy got me the info I wanted in one email.

So I decided to go up thinking I could negotiate on top of the rebates. When I was ready to make the offer I had found out that they are a non negotiate dealer. All the sales people are paid hourly + bonuses for quota. I was ok with this becuase they acutally gave me a pretty good deal off the bat.

So here is the break down

$27680 MSRP
$751.11 Backup Sensors and Weathertech floor liners(Which was 500$ plus install and tax)
$114.95 Out of State Doc fees
$75 Normal flat rate doc fee
$344.20 License Plates(surprisingly high, more then my Passat)
$1349 Taxes

The rebates I recieved were:

$700 Dealer Discount
$750 VW conquest (emission scandal deal)
$500 Holiday Cash
$500 Came as part of a package with 0% interest for 63 months financing

27864.24 was the Total out the door price. I put 8k down and financed the rest.

If you just figure the car and the rebates its $25,230

Invoice on the car was $26,333 so I'd like to think I did pretty well.

I didnt buy any warranties and the only accesoriy I bought were Weathertech Floor mats.

I get to pick up the car this saturday, I cant wait. I already have an appointment at a good place to get undercoating and a Smart Start installed. The dealer wanted too much to go their way and get the same product.

I still need to setup a time to get the windows tinted and I plan on gutting the interior this spring or summer to install some Hushmat.

Now I just need to find a service manual for the car.

I will post some pics when I get the car.
 

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It is funny how close to MSRP you get to after adding the accessories you need.

I wanted a 2017 GT Hatchback with the premium package But with the extras I wanted for protection in WI would be over 27K OTD.

I ended up at $25485 OTD for a 2016 that had a $27630 MSRP!

The accessories I added were the following.

OEM Splash Guards Front & Rear $109

OEM 3 color S/S door sills, S/S Rear Bumper guard and S/S Zoom Zoom license plate holder $223

WeatherTech Front & Rear FloorLiner floor mats and Cargo tray $249

Xpel Ultimate PPF for the front bumper, front fenders, headlights and fog lights, part hood, door cups, door edges and rocker sides $880

So the total ended up being $26946. More than I wanted to spend but has most of the protection for day to day use.

I think the Xpel is a good idea if you are going to keep it for a long time. It is amazing how fast the money adds up just to protect your new vehicle.

I might have all the side and rear windows tinted at 35% but that is about it. The only other mod might be the yellow Halogen bulbs for the fog lights but we will see.

Overall I think you will really like your new ride. I ended up on a 1100 mile trip to bring mine home so was able to break it in properly. It was louder than the 2006 Civic EX coupe that I also kept as a beater for this winter. I just turned the stereo up a little bit and the problem was solved. With my wife she likes the stereo a little softer so the I do get a bit more road noise that I would like.

But man it is fun to drive and I really like that a lot. I got around 37 MPG driving at 70-72 MPH and 28-34 MPH at faster speeds or around town. This will be the car we use on trips so it should work out pretty good for us.

Good luck on your new ride.

Edward
 

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The road noise can be bothersome, but its solvable with lots and lots of Hushmat. I did a complete install on a 1981 Crown Victoria back in the day. You could here a pin drop in that car. It was awesome.

I plan on doing a couple write ups. I should be fun. Im pretty proud of this one I did for a Escort

I'm also considering an aero kit (once a less expensive one becomes available, maybe some nicer wheels and a small stealth sub. I want some more midbass. I saw the two posts about putting one in. Not really comfortable about hacking the wiring. Don't really want a half-ass fix either. Jury is still out on that.

We shall see what the future brings.
 

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All you guys getting backup sensors. I didn't even know it was an option (I didn't know to ask).

Question about them, and this may be off topic, do they just beep or is there a visual to indicate what side is beeping as well?
 

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All you guys getting backup sensors. I didn't even know it was an option (I didn't know to ask).

Question about them, and this may be off topic, do they just beep or is there a visual to indicate what side is beeping as well?

It was an option in the accessories on the Mazda site. The sensors are installed at Port when they get to the states if you ordered the car from the factory. The sensors can be bought as a kit from the dealer and installed. This is the same way they handle the aero kit.

Not sure how they work yet, I pick up the car tomorrow. I'll let you know.
 

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All you guys getting backup sensors. I didn't even know it was an option (I didn't know to ask).

Question about them, and this may be off topic, do they just beep or is there a visual to indicate what side is beeping as well?
If it's the OEM sensors then they should beep and also display on the VDU. Had my 17 for a couple of days now which came with front and rear sensors and you get the car graphic up on screen with front left/center/right and rear left/center/right quadrants.
 
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